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TenderLovingKiller® said:
My thing is more that despite our best efforts we only have a finite period of time on this planet and we will never be able to listen to or enjoy it all.

If you know there is next to no possibility that would enjoy something and you have the option to instead to use that time to experience something that are much more likely to enjoy, then you are doing yourself a disservice by wasting time with something you will not enjoy.

The Wicked analogous to the new FJM album works better if the author was addressing the Wicked sequel. You already have experienced FJM’s music. You gave it a shot and it’s not your bag. This isn’t a project that you think you might not like this a a project you have tried and know it’s not your bag. Why actively seek out more of it?

I understand taste evolves and sometimes it’s good to revisit things you haven’t enjoyed in the past as it’s possible that it might click now where it hasn’t previously but for me personally I don’t chase that sort of thing, they would need to come to me naturally without effort. Perhaps you hear a FJM track randomly on Spotify or in a commercial or movie that piques your interest and then you go check out his latest album but until a moment like that arrives and forces your hand, I choose not to waste my time.
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Sometimes it takes awhile for things to click for me. Often when it does, that album becomes an all-time favorite or pushes my taste forward.

Example include White Blood Cells (on CD), Stankonia (on CD), Deafhaven (by proxy of my old roommate), Art Angels, the band Can.

Artists that I didn't like who later put out an album I loved include Sharon Von Etton, Tyler the Creator, Danny Brown, Fiona Apple, Haim, St Vincent... many of those are now among my favorite artists now.

Other bands have never clicked despite repeated attempts and / or live shows at festivals ala Tame Impala and Beach House. The reason I gave them multiple attempts is that they seemingly should be in my wheel house. So revisiting their albums is a little different than giving a new album a shot. But at the same time, several VMP releases shifted my opinion on an album. For example, the Death Cab release.

In sum, I enjoy pushing the boundaries of my taste and I think it's part of why my pallet is so varried at this point. That said, you're still not gonna get me to listen to a country album that wasn't released by Kacey Musgraves.
 
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DownIsTheNewUp said:
Sometimes it takes awhile for things to click for me. Often when it does, that album becomes an all-time favorite or pushes my taste forward.

Example include White Blood Cells (on CD), Stankonia (on CD), Deafhaven (by proxy of my old roommate), Art Angels, the band Can.

Artists that I didn't like who later put out an album I loved include Sharon Von Etton, Tyler the Creator, Danny Brown, Fiona Apple, Haim, St Vincent... many of those are now among my favorite artists now.

Other bands have never clicked despite repeated attempts and / or live shows at festivals ala Tame Impala and Beach House. The reason I gave them multiple attempts is that they seemingly should be in my wheel house. So revisiting their albums is a little different than giving a new album a shot. But at the same time, several VMP releases shifted my opinion on an album. For example, the Death Cab release.

In sum, I enjoy pushing the boundaries of my taste and I think it's part of why my pallet is so varried at this point. That said, you're still not gonna get me to listen to a country album that wasn't released by Kacey Musgraves.
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This isn’t really my point. What I am trying to express is if I have never tried pizza with pineapple, I am not gonna assume it’s bad, I am gonna check it out and see if it’s something I would enjoy but once I have tried it and determined it’s not my thing, I am not going to keep ordering pineapple pizza just to see if my taste has changed. I am going to spend more time ordering pizza I enjoy. If I am out somewhere and someone offers me a slice of pineapple pizza I might give it a try but it’s not something I am gonna go out of my way to eat.
 
Nee Lewman said:
this ends up like Mr Morale and an album of the moment as opposed to Butterfly and Damn being all timers.
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For what it's worth, I didn't really jump on the Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers hype train when it first came out, but it clicked with me big time when I revisited this year after the Drake beef. If a confessional record like that is considered an "album of the moment" it's only because of the current landscape of music consumption where the majority of people are looking for something instantly gratifying to keep them busy until the next big release rather than actually sitting with the work an artist put time and effort in to make.

Besides, TPAB and DAMN. were very much tied to the respective moments they came out as well, so why do those albums get to be timeless despite some dated references but not Mr. Morale and GNX?
 
gaporter said:
For what it's worth, I didn't really jump on the Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers hype train when it first came out, but it clicked with me big time when I revisited this year after the Drake beef. If a confessional record like that is considered an "album of the moment" it's only because of the current landscape of music consumption where the majority of people are looking for something instantly gratifying to keep them busy until the next big release rather than actually sitting with the work an artist put time and effort in to make.

Besides, TPAB and DAMN. were very much tied to the respective moments they came out as well, so why do those albums get to be timeless despite some dated references but not Mr. Morale and GNX?
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I’m not necessarily saying they are dated. I’m saying that I listened to Mr Morale a bunch when it came out but it has not stayed with me whereas Damn and Butterfly get a couple of listens every year. It was a personal statement not a universal statement. I enjoy his enthusiasm since the beef but not the content.
 
Nee Lewman said:
I’m not necessarily saying they are dated. I’m saying that I listened to Mr Morale a bunch when it came out but it has not stayed with me whereas Damn and Butterfly get a couple of listens every year. It was a personal statement not a universal statement. I enjoy his enthusiasm since the beef but not the content.
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That's fair. I was just offering a differing viewpoint since I interpreted your comment as implying that Mr. Morale wouldn't have as much staying power as those other records, but it seems like I misunderstood what you were saying so I apologize for that.
 
gaporter said:
That's fair. I was just offering a differing viewpoint since I interpreted your comment as implying that Mr. Morale wouldn't have as much staying power as those other records, but it seems like I misunderstood what you were saying so I apologize for that.
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No problem. I think we are used to folks making universal statements that we forget that subjective opinion is a very personal thing.

All hip hop tends to be dated because it is often topical and checks dates and people, but I have no problem saying that PE/Beasties/Outkast… are all timers that I listen to all the time despite that.
 
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DownIsTheNewUp said:
Besides that, isn't indie rock one of the foundations of your taste? I feel like you just don't like modern indie rock as much- especially when it's in the Bon Ivoresque singer songwriter / folk lane.
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From four and a half years ago...
Rip_City said:
Early in life, my tastes were centered more towards 70s/80s soft rock and (unfortunately) dad rock/classic rock. I came onto metal, thrash in particular, in high school. Hip-hop and indie rock later in college. Now much more pop-centered, with a hint of electronic. But overall, everything up to this point has come full circle and I enjoy components of each.
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I would say that the bolded underlined sentence is the most accurate reflection of where I am now...except swap places of "electronic" and "pop."
When it comes to indie rock, the "slacker rock" sound is jarring to me (Pavement, Duster, Dinosaur Jr., Silver Jews). An exception made for Modest Mouse, particularly The Lonesome Crowded West, as that record encapsulated lightning in a bottle of right time right place. You are correct that indie folk artists/groups like Bon Iver (and similar artists) rarely gel with me. In contrast, I have found that when artist is female that this nets better results for my enjoyment (Laura Marling, Haley Heynderickx, Helena Deland), though still not overly common.

The big name indie rock (without the "slacker rock" genre tag) releases from the 90s/00s are still enjoyable, but I have largely stuck with those without feeling the need to expand further beyond what I know. I still have a number of them physically.

I have focused my genres as a DJ to: deep house, Japanese city pop, ambient, downtempo, and Balearic.

EDIT: changed a DJ genre tag
 
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TenderLovingKiller® said:
This isn’t really my point. What I am trying to express is if I have never tried pizza with pineapple, I am not gonna assume it’s bad, I am gonna check it out and see if it’s something I would enjoy but once I have tried it and determined it’s not my thing, I am not going to keep ordering pineapple pizza just to see if my taste has changed. I am going to spend more time ordering pizza I enjoy. If I am out somewhere and someone offers me a slice of pineapple pizza I might give it a try but it’s not something I am gonna go out of my way to eat.
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I had that experience with lobster pizza recently. I was on an island that is known for lobster pizza and on paper it sounded suspect. It was actually really good. It reminded me of New Haven Clams Casino Apizza. I would order it again.
 
Krampus' #1 Diaper Baby said:
I had that experience with lobster pizza recently. I was on an island that is known for lobster pizza and on paper it sounded suspect. It was actually really good. It reminded me of New Haven Clams Casino Apizza. I would order it again.
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Clam pizza was such a delicious surprise to stumble upon. So freaking good. I've had it as a white sauce and a red sauce and both crushed.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
This isn’t really my point. What I am trying to express is if I have never tried pizza with pineapple, I am not gonna assume it’s bad, I am gonna check it out and see if it’s something I would enjoy but once I have tried it and determined it’s not my thing, I am not going to keep ordering pineapple pizza just to see if my taste has changed. I am going to spend more time ordering pizza I enjoy. If I am out somewhere and someone offers me a slice of pineapple pizza I might give it a try but it’s not something I am gonna go out of my way to eat.
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I don't feel like that's the right analogy.

More like, I might like Thai Food but have high standards after years of living in LA. So I'll go to a spot in Chicago and be disappointed. But maybe I wind up back up at that same spot with a friend and they have a new dish on the menu that blows my mind. Or I don't particularly care for Chinese food but then a new spot blows my mind and suddenly I want to check out a bunch other spots.

That said, I'm the personality type that was wiling to try pineapple and anchovie pizza about 10 years ago. And now, occassionally I'm in the mood for pineapple and anchovy pizza. YOLO.
 
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