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It comes as no surprise that John Oliver's main topic last night was about the results on the election.

I love how he calls out every dumbass Democrat that says the Democrats lost because they embraced progressive policies and need to become more of a center party to survive.

John Oliver is like wtf are you smoking, that is exactly what you had, you couldn't get a more center party than what Democrats put forward and they still lost.
 
Trump is great for the economy and the working class!

No, no he isn't.

Back in July my mother's company suspended all new product development and releases until after the election. This is because everything is manufactured in China and if Trump wins the Tariffs he has promised will hurt their bottom line.

This morning they had an all company meeting. All new product development and releases are now suspended indefinitely until they can figure out how to move manufacturing out of China. With this news also comes a round of layoffs.

And guess what, the tariffs are not going to bring the manufacturing back to the United States. Not even close. They are looking at countries such as Indonesia, India, Taiwan and what not for manufacturing. They are not even considering the United States due to costs.


The company my mother works for was founded a little over 50 years ago, she's been with them for more than 30 years. Everything they manufactured was made in the United States up until 15 years ago. What changed? As the founder, he sold his company to a holding group. And over the last 15 years my mother's company has been acquired or merged into an even larger soldering company. She's under a massive umbrella of brands now. They make all kinds of home goods, gifts and what not. And one of the first things that happened was the put and end of manufacturing local to cut costs. My mother's brand, which has always been a premium gift brand found in gift shops is now no more than let's make it as cheep as possible and only sell in Walmart. Let's not deal with gift shops and eliminate the sales reps required to manage relationships with thousands of small stores.
 
The FDA has recalled 80,000 pounds of salted and unsalted Kirkland Signature Sweat Cream Butter sold at Costco.

This recall has conservatives up in arms on social media talking about how America is too dumbed down and woke.

The reason for the recall? The packaging does not visible display the allergen statement "Contains Milk". The packaging does list cream in the ingredients.

Nothing is wrong with the butter, but it's being recalled for not explicitly stating it contains milk. Something conservatives thing should be common sense and America is being too sensitive catering to the dumb.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
The FDA has recalled 80,000 pounds of salted and unsalted Kirkland Signature Sweat Cream Butter sold at Costco.

This recall has conservatives up in arms on social media talking about how America is too dumbed down and woke.

The reason for the recall? The packaging does not visible display the allergen statement "Contains Milk". The packaging does list cream in the ingredients.

Nothing is wrong with the butter, but it's being recalled for not explicitly stating it contains milk. Something conservatives thing should be common sense and America is being too sensitive catering to the dumb.
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Yet they're the ones that help created the dumb that need catering to. Idiots.
 
apnews.com

Trump breaks GOP losing streak in nation's largest majority-Arab city with a pivotal final week

Donald Trump became the first Republican presidential candidate since 2000 to win the majority-Arab city of Dearborn, Michigan.
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I think based off reading this, the city didn't turn further right, but rather the city abandoned the Democratic Party. Arb voters had a dislike for both candidates and chose not to vote.

They didn't vote of the candidate that was the lesser evil, but instead chose not to vote at all.

I wonder if other demographics are shifting in this direction as well, tired of always voting for the lesser of two evils verses the candidate that aligns with their viewpoints.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
Trump is great for the economy and the working class!

No, no he isn't.

Back in July my mother's company suspended all new product development and releases until after the election. This is because everything is manufactured in China and if Trump wins the Tariffs he has promised will hurt their bottom line.

This morning they had an all company meeting. All new product development and releases are now suspended indefinitely until they can figure out how to move manufacturing out of China. With this news also comes a round of layoffs.

And guess what, the tariffs are not going to bring the manufacturing back to the United States. Not even close. They are looking at countries such as Indonesia, India, Taiwan and what not for manufacturing. They are not even considering the United States due to costs.


The company my mother works for was founded a little over 50 years ago, she's been with them for more than 30 years. Everything they manufactured was made in the United States up until 15 years ago. What changed? As the founder, he sold his company to a holding group. And over the last 15 years my mother's company has been acquired or merged into an even larger soldering company. She's under a massive umbrella of brands now. They make all kinds of home goods, gifts and what not. And one of the first things that happened was the put and end of manufacturing local to cut costs. My mother's brand, which has always been a premium gift brand found in gift shops is now no more than let's make it as cheep as possible and only sell in Walmart. Let's not deal with gift shops and eliminate the sales reps required to manage relationships with thousands of small stores.
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If you look closely, there is a direct correlation between areas that voted for Trump and areas where the average wage has not kept up with inflation. There is also a direct correlation with education.

So what drove the vote? Hope for improved earnings (purchasing power), revenge on the elites, anger at a system that is outdated and failed, and a dream to return to the past - which was, in fact, better for them.

But that past can't and won't come back. Manufacturing isn't coming back. The 52% won't pay $150 for a pair of shoes made in the USA. They won't pay $75 for the polyester pants they wear to the local bingo hall. They won't pay $5000 for a laptop that today costs $750 at Best Buy. Not going to happen.

In fact, tariffs will worsen their price misery, because they will impact high quality products made in countries other than China. Vinyl made in Germany, jeans made in Japan, a shirt made in India - all will cost more.

Even their MAGA bibles and Trump bobbleheads will cost more.

Republicans have consistently blocked minimum wage increases, worker protections, consumer protections, employment laws - in fact, anything that would actually help that 52%.

Republicans have, consistently over many decades, weakened the education system and access to higher education, necessary to lift that 52% up and at least give their children a better future. Many, maybe most, of that 52% are too dumb and/or lazy to get a higher education. Nevertheless, access is everything.

Republicans have consistently weakened even the modest and toothless oversight of financial institutions. This helps the rich get richer at the expense of the not wealthy and working class.

But hope, revenge, anger and fantasy are a powerful emotional cocktail.

How long they continue to drive Trump popularity remains to be seen.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
apnews.com

Trump breaks GOP losing streak in nation's largest majority-Arab city with a pivotal final week

Donald Trump became the first Republican presidential candidate since 2000 to win the majority-Arab city of Dearborn, Michigan.
apnews.com apnews.com

I think based off reading this, the city didn't turn further right, but rather the city abandoned the Democratic Party. Arb voters had a dislike for both candidates and chose not to vote.

They didn't vote of the candidate that was the lesser evil, but instead chose not to vote at all.

I wonder if other demographics are shifting in this direction as well, tired of always voting for the lesser of two evils verses the candidate that aligns with their viewpoints.
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That would end democracy possibly quicker than electing autocrats and facists.
 
LiamGallaghersBucketHat said:
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So, is this really something Trump said he's going to do, or is this ai content.

I'm questioning reality here because I have not heard this reporting by any major media outlet. Because if Trump really said he's going to do this, wtf. This needs to be reported on.

While I haven't heard this mentioned in the news, if I Google the topic, yes, it's been reported on. Looks like it's been buried by the story of Trump winning the election.

So many people believe the Department of Education has failed us. One of the key things I have seen on social media is the department of education doesn't educate, it indoctrinates children and teaches woke agendas. There is a lot of anger and fear about our public education system and mega and conservative people love the idea of abolishing the Department of Education and making education local again.

Do they not get that the Department of Education takes money from high population blue states to pay for education in low population red states? Do they not realize that this will make the education system worse in their state.


But I guess the state of Missouri goes to show that people will vote against their self interests when picking their candidates and policies at a macro level. Democrat polices like the right to abortion, increased minimum wage and another one I can't remember were on the ballot in Missouri. They all passed. But at the same time, the elected officials they chose were all deep red and against such policies. Why do people continue to align them selves with people who are against their self interests?
 
RenegadeMonster said:
apnews.com

Trump breaks GOP losing streak in nation's largest majority-Arab city with a pivotal final week

Donald Trump became the first Republican presidential candidate since 2000 to win the majority-Arab city of Dearborn, Michigan.
apnews.com apnews.com

I think based off reading this, the city didn't turn further right, but rather the city abandoned the Democratic Party. Arb voters had a dislike for both candidates and chose not to vote.

They didn't vote of the candidate that was the lesser evil, but instead chose not to vote at all.

I wonder if other demographics are shifting in this direction as well, tired of always voting for the lesser of two evils verses the candidate that aligns with their viewpoints.
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Remember when Clinton was in Michigan the week before the election and said Israel was forced to kill Arabs because they were there first?

Big brain shit.
 
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