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debianlinux
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Spoiler: it takes fucking forever before she does any actual cooking.
Tyr
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You were watching for the cooking?!?! Lol
debianlinux
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Opinion | Is There a Doctor in the White House? Not if You Need an M.D.
Jill Biden should think about dropping the honorific, which feels fraudulent, even comic.
www.wsj.com
Sighs, this whole article is about how Jill Biden should drop the "Dr." before her name. It's basically you are not a real doctor, you are a PhD argument. And using the "Dr." title is fraudulent according to the author who points out Mrs. Biden has a Ed.D., a doctor of education. She is not a doctor of medicine.
Turbo
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Opinion | Is There a Doctor in the White House? Not if You Need an M.D.
Jill Biden should think about dropping the honorific, which feels fraudulent, even comic.
Sighs, this whole article is about how Jill Biden should drop the "Dr." before her name. It's basically you are not a real doctor, you are a PhD argument. And using the "Dr." title is fraudulent according to the author who points out Mrs. Biden has a Ed.D., a doctor of education. She is not a doctor of medicine.
I know it's different in most places, but interestingly, I'm not allowed to use the Dr title here. It's legally reserved for the medical professionals. And only M.D.'s can use it without further qualifiers. For example, my wife is an optometrist and can use the Dr title but she must put O.D. at the end of her name. Dentists have to do that to.
LeSamourai
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Funny enough, given the author of that article complained about her having a doctorate in education, the word doctor comes from the Latin word for "teacher."
AnthonyI
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Opinion | Is There a Doctor in the White House? Not if You Need an M.D.
Jill Biden should think about dropping the honorific, which feels fraudulent, even comic.
Sighs, this whole article is about how Jill Biden should drop the "Dr." before her name. It's basically you are not a real doctor, you are a PhD argument. And using the "Dr." title is fraudulent according to the author who points out Mrs. Biden has a Ed.D., a doctor of education. She is not a doctor of medicine.
........and yet, "DR" Atlas became our infectious disease "Expert"
Turbo
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In the end, it's a decision for a society. The insidiousness here is that they're targeting an individual and asking that individual to renounce the use of the title when it's a perfectly acceptable thing in that society. If they're unhappy with the way it's used, it should be addressed across the board and be the same for all Ph.D.'s, not just her. I find that pretty disgusting about the article.
I'm pretty sure it's different here. Having a doctorate of something is enough to use the Title. When it comes to education, growing up I saw "Dr." used a lot.
I don't remember what degree they had, but in middle school / high school both the principal and librarian had a doctorate of something (The school was grades 7-12). They both went by "Dr." as part of their title. We are taught by our teachers that was the proper way to address them.
Again, in college most all my professions went by Dr. something or another if they had a PhD.
Outside of education, you tended to see people use their degree(s) as their title, rather than Doctor unless they were a doctor of medicine.
Turbo
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I think it's only like that in Quebec here. If I'm not mistaken, Ph.D's can use the Dr. title in the rest of Canada. I can sign my name with Ph.D. as a suffix but I can't use Dr (I could actually be fined depending on how I represent myself).
ranbalam
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My wife has her doctorate in pharmacy but doesn't use Dr in front of her name except in rare professional situations. She's proud of the title of course, but doesn't feel she should be addressed as 'Doctor.'
LeSamourai
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The thing that does annoy me, though, is when people who have a doctorate use it to try to sound authoritative on something outside their expertise. The way I see it, all expertise is domain-specific.
debianlinux
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Jan
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Around here Dr. Is the official title for anyone to use with a successful dissertation regardless of the profession, but frankly medicinal Dr titles are universally frowned upon in the academic world because a run-of the-mill medicinal dissertation is hardly equivalent to bachelor thesis in other fields
Turbo
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It's funny you bring this up. My daughter just had a substitute teacher for 6 weeks, in grade 6 no less, that kept mentioning his Ph.D. We have no idea in what. But even my daughter could tell it was dubious and understands that it has no bearings on his abilities to teach (she said he was one of the worst teachers she's had so far, LOL).
Jan
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Not conceding and calling " voter fraud" seems to be the thing in the gop in 2020
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www.politico.com
Trump unleashes an army of sore losers
GOP candidates for House, legislative and gubernatorial races in more than half a dozen states are claiming voter fraud and still refusing to acknowledge defeat.
www.politico.com
AnthonyI
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I'm hoping karma bites the Republicans big time in the ass.Not conceding and calling " voter fraud" seems to be the thing in the gop in 2020
Trump unleashes an army of sore losers
GOP candidates for House, legislative and gubernatorial races in more than half a dozen states are claiming voter fraud and still refusing to acknowledge defeat.
Opinion | Is There a Doctor in the White House? Not if You Need an M.D.
Jill Biden should think about dropping the honorific, which feels fraudulent, even comic.
Sighs, this whole article is about how Jill Biden should drop the "Dr." before her name. It's basically you are not a real doctor, you are a PhD argument. And using the "Dr." title is fraudulent according to the author who points out Mrs. Biden has a Ed.D., a doctor of education. She is not a doctor of medicine.
So part of this could be an over reaction on my part, but being questioned on your credentials because of your sex is something that a lot of women still deal with, especially women in technical roles. There are still a lot of stereotypes regarding women's mental capacity and when a woman earns a doctorate in some degree field that men see as "less"--and yes, many men see teaching as an "easy" degree to get and an "easy" job to do. This is a common view point for many people with more conservative values. It's just another way the world tells me that in order to get half the respect of a man in my field, I have to work twice as hard. And God forbid I show any emotion....ever...because that just proves the point that women are too emotional to be logical as well.
djdavedk
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This is absolutely true, across the board.
When was the last time a male was called "bossy"?