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This fucking guy. The fascists and authoritarians need to be made afraid again.
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Bemoaning Ohio results, Santorum says ‘pure democracies’ aren’t how to run a country

After a particularly disappointing night of election results for Republicans, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) lamented “pure democracies,” where major decisions are left up to voters rather than their elected officials. “Thank goodness that most of the states in this country don’t allow you to...
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Hemotep said:
This fucking guy. The fascists and authoritarians need to be made afraid again.
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Bemoaning Ohio results, Santorum says ‘pure democracies’ aren’t how to run a country

After a particularly disappointing night of election results for Republicans, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) lamented “pure democracies,” where major decisions are left up to voters rather than their elected officials. “Thank goodness that most of the states in this country don’t allow you to...
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So abortion and decriminalization of marijuana are "sexy things" and not matters of actual life and livelihood? Ok there, Rick.
 
EvanBenner said:
So abortion and decriminalization of marijuana are "sexy things" and not matters of actual life and livelihood? Ok there, Rick.
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"You put very sexy things like abortion and marijuana on the ballot, and a lot of young people come out and vote,” Santorum said."
There is so much wrong with this. Naming abortion "sexy thing" is even on the dumb site of the current gop plus we have a politician openly bemoaning high voter turnouts. That's what democracy is about : getting as many people as possible to vote. That the Republicans more and more openly disagree with this is alarming
 
Jan said:
"You put very sexy things like abortion and marijuana on the ballot, and a lot of young people come out and vote,” Santorum said."
There is so much wrong with this. Naming abortion "sexy thing" is even on the dumb site of the current gop plus we have a politician openly bemoaning high voter turnouts. That's what democracy is about : getting as many people as possible to vote. That the Republicans more and more openly disagree with this is alarming
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A politician voted in by majority suddenly has a problem with the notion of majority rule. :rolleyes:
 
folsom_lives said:
A politician voted in by majority suddenly has a problem with the notion of majority rule. :rolleyes:
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Was it Ohio, or another state a couple years back that a ballot question that passed, as in voted for by the majority of people was ignored by the state legislator.

If I remember correctly, it was for expanded medicare or something similar and Republicans were against. They got away with ignoring the voters will by saying only the state legislator has the power to fund such a thing, not voters. Rather than doing their job to fund it, they ignored it and said it's not in the budget.
 
RenegadeMonster said:
Meanwhile, Biden is still unconditionally supporting Israel. Something that could cost him key states he just narrowly beat Trump in back in 2020.
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Look, I get that people want Biden to do something to stop Israel but if people choose to either stay home or vote for someone other than Biden, what exactly do they think will happen to Muslims around the world and in this country? Trump has already stated the Muslim Ban returns on day 1 if he's elected. You think Trump would stop Israel from doing anything? He would advocate for the wholesale slaughter of whoever opposed Israel. When the government is openly allowing hostility towards your religion and nationalities, do you think it was a good idea to let Trump get elected back into office? When discrimination is no longer taboo, do you think it was a good idea to stay home?

I am not happy with all things Biden but Trump getting elected could very well be the end of our democracy at most levels. I don't understand why this is difficult to see. The only thing that stopped him before was people with morals standing up to him or soft playing his goals. He now knows this and it will be only those loyal to him that will remain in government or be appointed to his cabinet. It will be a full blown autocracy. Look no further than the Supreme Court for the damage Trump's first term will have on generations of people.
 
I like that bus analogy...apologies if I butcher it. There is no perfect candidate. It's like choosing which bus to get on. The one that goes in the general direction of my destination is the clear/only answer, even if you have to sit by someone you would rather not, it stops frequently, it lets you out a few blocks away and you have to walk, or you have to wait at the stop longer than you would like before it picks you up. You don't choose a bus going in the opposite direction entirely.
 
Well, your choice is the bus headed in the wrong direction that could maybe steer itself right again or the bus that will most definitely drive you, your family, your friends, and people you claim to support off a cliff if left unchecked or allowed to continue on its route.

Once he regains power, he will do everything to keep it. And he has a flock of politicians that will help him with that because they too crave power and enjoy wielding it. If you don't believe me, check out what the GOP has done with gerrymandering to maintain control for decades. Check out how they wouldn't allow Obama's Supreme Court nominee to go forward when there was a vacancy. The GOP has no shame. They will always turn to the cruelest path. They will strip down portions of the government to do what they want going forward. They will do generational damage to this country that will be very hard to unwind once it is enacted.
 
Lee Newman said:
I mean we all feel this way. There are a lot of people that feel like Biden is the bus headed the wrong direction.
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The other bus is very likely Trump. Or, if we're lucky, someone who's not as willfully evil/craven/corrupt/authoritarian but just as willing to fuck fuck over large swathes of Americans just to score political points. In hindsight, Romney was a paragon of virtue and American ideals compared to these fucks.
 
mdmost said:
Look, I get that people want Biden to do something to stop Israel but if people choose to either stay home or vote for someone other than Biden, what exactly do they think will happen to Muslims around the world and in this country? Trump has already stated the Muslim Ban returns on day 1 if he's elected. You think Trump would stop Israel from doing anything? He would advocate for the wholesale slaughter of whoever opposed Israel. When the government is openly allowing hostility towards your religion and nationalities, do you think it was a good idea to let Trump get elected back into office? When discrimination is no longer taboo, do you think it was a good idea to stay home?

I am not happy with all things Biden but Trump getting elected could very well be the end of our democracy at most levels. I don't understand why this is difficult to see. The only thing that stopped him before was people with morals standing up to him or soft playing his goals. He now knows this and it will be only those loyal to him that will remain in government or be appointed to his cabinet. It will be a full blown autocracy. Look no further than the Supreme Court for the damage Trump's first term will have on generations of people.
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It's muslims and arabs that Biden's support is plummeting with. If Trump was president, Israel would be doing the exact same thing that Biden is allowing them to do right now. I certainly don't want Trump back, but I'm even less enthused about Biden now than I was 4 years ago. Dude needs to get it together or fuck off.
 
ayayrawn said:
It's muslims and arabs that Biden's support is plummeting with. If Trump was president, Israel would be doing the exact same thing that Biden is allowing them to do right now. I certainly don't want Trump back, but I'm even less enthused about Biden now than I was 4 years ago. Dude needs to get it together or fuck off.
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They all need to fuck right off and let somebody who isn't already halfway in the ground run things.
 
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