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juiceless said:
Disagree! I think they’re the link between American punk and two tone ska. They wrote good songs that were ska tinged, but without being slavish to the ska sound and the “pick it up! Pick it up! Pick it up!” silliness. They got shitty at the end when they got a hit, but their first four albums are great.
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I will forever have a soft spot for Question the Answers. That is a fantastic album.
 
juiceless said:
Disagree! I think they’re the link between American punk and two tone ska. They wrote good songs that were ska tinged, but without being slavish to the ska sound and the “pick it up! Pick it up! Pick it up!” silliness. They got shitty at the end when they got a hit, but their first four albums are great.
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I listened to punk-ska basically every day for 4+ years. The Bosstones ain't shit (even if Dickey Barrett is a real chill guy)
 
Waitressboy said:
Listening to Mayer for the first time in my life. Just three songs in and this is not at all what I expected. Everybody was talking about the good guitar player he is and I expected something more... Rock, I guess. This is harmless background music to play while I'm having brunch with a friend. It's like Des'Ree for white dudes. I'm not sure I I'd pay for this music on vinyl, but if I get it as a present I'd be happy.
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I just gave it a listen through too. It’s fine. A nice enough background music while drinking a coffee and doing work on your laptop. Which is what I was doing. That Stars by Simply Red comparison holds up though. And I’m not slagging either album off with that. All things have their place.
 
gouis said:
I listened to punk-ska basically every day for 4+ years. The Bosstones ain't shit (even if Dickey Barrett is a real chill guy)
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For me, Operation Ivy, Rancid, Catch 22/Streetlight, ASOBs, Less Than Jake, and Mad Caddies made solid albums. There are some really corny ska bands and some really corny fans, but I've never really understood why it's broadly maligned as a genre.

I also really like The Slackers for non-punk 3rd-wave.

Bosstones and RBF never really did anything for me but were really popular with some of my friends.
 
Joe Mac said:
My point was about taking the full name of a different, prior, music form and whole scale attributing it to a later much different one.
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I didn't really understand that, since there is a clear influence, but it is common to refer to third wave ska and ska punk as just ska, because shorthand. Hence my confusion I guess.

I guess it is confusing if someone isn't familiar with the bands that are being discussed though. Even within ska punk, there is a lot of variation. Band with horns, without horns, with clear ska rhythms on every song, with only some on some songs. Confusing all around I guess, but that goes for most genres/sub-genres. I find myself just saying punk and meaning post-punk, hardcore punk, pop punk, ska punk, garage punk, post-hardcore etc. I guess some find it tedious to try to be precise with the imprecise genre labels, which I find understandable.
 
dhodo said:
I didn't really understand that, since there is a clear influence, but it is common to refer to third wave ska and ska punk as just ska, because shorthand. Hence my confusion I guess.

I guess it is confusing if someone isn't familiar with the bands that are being discussed though. Even within ska punk, there is a lot of variation. Band with horns, without horns, with clear ska rhythms on every song, with only some on some songs. Confusing all around I guess, but that goes for most genres/sub-genres. I find myself just saying punk and meaning post-punk, hardcore punk, pop punk, ska punk, garage punk, post-hardcore etc. I guess some find it tedious to try to be precise with the imprecise genre labels, which I find understandable.
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I suppose I dont agree and consider ska and ska-punk to be two utterly different things in almost every way, I don’t see huge common threads between pre-reggae Jamaican music and Less Than Jake and Bowling For Soup.

I’m kinda a bit bored of this back and forth now so I’m dropping out of the conversation.
 
Joe Mac said:
I suppose I dont agree and consider ska and ska-punk to be two utterly different things in almost every way, I don’t see huge common threads between pre-reggae Jamaican music and Less Than Jake and Bowling For Soup
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This is all just semantics, and you have a different POV being in the UK. Here "ska" and "punk-ska" were used almost interchangeably in the common discourse (whether that is technically correct or not).
 
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