Definitive Audiophile pressings

zdkaiser said:
Your setup is definitely better than mine, so you may notice more of an audible difference.

But I do recall when I first opened the 45 rpm version and I was inspecting the discs, I was kind of shocked at how little was pressed to each record. My immediate reaction was, "ugh...I should have bought the 33."

I ended up purchasing the 33 rpm version months later (once it was repressed) because I love the album but I just didn't find myself listening to the 45 because I didn't want to be bothered flipping it so frequently. Totally kills the vibe for me. I don't mind other 45 rpm records I own, but this Muddy seemed like too much of a "workout" to simply enjoy the music. Granted most of the 45 rpm albums I own have at least 12 - 15 minutes per side.
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Do you realize that it could easily have been cut at 45rpm on a single record? The only reason to do it on two records is price gouging.
 
RHANDMJ said:
Do you realize that it could easily have been cut at 45rpm on a single record? The only reason to do it on two records is price gouging.
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It looks like it would be roughly 17 minutes of music per side, can you squeeze that much onto a 45? It's probably right around there somewhere in terms of max amount yes?
 
MikeH said:
Mentioned this a week or so ago, but just got this one last night and it's pretty awesome.

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The studio it was recorded at is located directly above Record Industry in the netherlands. They have done a whole series now of recording single-take albums directly to acetate. Then they walk it downstairs to RI and press it up. It's a pretty great sounding record. OOS it seems in a lot of places but I'd recommend it if you see it! They have done a few other artists in this series too.
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This entire series is awesome. Highly recommended! In addition to this one, I really love the Gary Bartz x Maisha and Sarathy Korwar ones.
 
Mather said:
It looks like it would be roughly 17 minutes of music per side, can you squeeze that much onto a 45? It's probably right around there somewhere in terms of max amount yes?
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The longest side cut on 45 I have seen is Elvin Jones - Genesis Music Matters Side 1, which is 15 minutes. That's really the absolute limit, cutting a side that long at 45 the cutting lathe arm will literally lift if it goes longer. So really, the Muddy Waters couldn't fit, but it could have comfortably be 3 sides. But you can't charge as much for 3 sides as 4, even - as the pic above shows - there is huge wastage on each side.
 
RHANDMJ said:
The longest side cut on 45 I have seen is Elvin Jones - Genesis Music Matters Side 1, which is 15 minutes. That's really the absolute limit, cutting a side that long at 45 the cutting lathe arm will literally lift if it goes longer. So really, the Muddy Waters couldn't fit, but it could have comfortably be 3 sides. But you can't charge as much for 3 sides as 4, even - as the pic above shows - there is huge wastage on each side.
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Totally agree. That side one is hilarious.

The other thing I'd be a little concerned with for this particular album at 45 is "My Captain". That track is like 50% dead silence. The extra surface area you're running over at 45 would have a much greater possibility for audible pops and noise than a 33 I would think. Not a huge issue, but I do wonder how these One Steps are gunna turn out. There's a hell of a lot of dead black silence on this album...
 
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Russ I said:
Thanks, but nope, not me. :D Surf's Up is the one I'm most interested in. (And I don't think AP ever did that one?)

EDIT: Wrong, they did, but it's a pricey one at this point.
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It should come back into stock I think? I had it on backorder for the old price. Ah I thought you had gotten the sunflower/surfs up sessions reissue and said it was pretty bad but now I remember it was Surfs up you wanted more!
 
MikeH said:
It should come back into stock I think? I had it on backorder for the old price. Ah I thought you had gotten the sunflower/surfs up sessions reissue and said it was pretty bad but now I remember it was Surfs up you wanted more!
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Yeah, it was the Feel Flows release that I tried, but ended up returning it because it was horrible. For now, I'm settling for an OG Surf's Up I have until a repress comes along.
 
Mather said:
This is all I needed. I have the 33 and it's up there with the best sounding albums in my collection and I honestly wasn't sure how much better it could really be. If the takeaway is "slightly but it's 7 minutes a side" I'll stick with the 33. I found the 45 of Brubeck Time Out beat out the 33 by enough that it was worth it. But I'll give this one a miss.
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Dammit, I have the Time Out 33...
 
FWIW I have both the AP SRV 33 & 45 rpm boxes. Both boxes are great. These I have compared extensively. The 45s are definitely better but you really only notice it when directly going from one to the other.
 
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