Hot Take/ Musical Confession Thread!

[Joe Mac]

Well, dang it! I’ve expressly said I hate when people do this so let me heed my own words.

If you’ll accept my outstretched hand, I’d like to pull you out of the dumpster and we’ll piss that fire right out.

You’re entitled to that opinion of PF.

Also, Radiohead is prog

If Radiohead are prog then they must be the only prog act ever that repeatedly goes on record about how much they hate prog...

 

[Joe Mac]

Of course! I just will never be able to hold the first half of their career anywhere near their second

That’s because it isn’t as good. I enjoy it for what it is but the jump between Help! and Rubber Soul is huge!

 

[dhodo]

Of course! I just will never be able to hold the first half of their career anywhere near their second

I think that's a pretty normal opinion. Are there people continually telling you otherwise?

 

[TheMythOfSisyphus]

If Radiohead are prog then they must be the only prog act ever that repeatedly goes on record about how much they hate prog...

I didn’t say that they were smart. Just prog.
Edit: I am a fan of Radiohead so I say this with a sense of fun. Arguably prog is an ethos and a sound - not at all times interchangeable. The sound became bloated, unmanageable, and at times unlistenable. However, the taking of classical, jazz, etc influences and going beyond the original terms of RnR/pop as an IDEA is progressive (as a full word). So...there is progressive pop/sophisti-pop/etc that are cut from the same cloth but weave a different pattern (ie no bloated concepts or 10 min organ solos). Radiohead pushing beyond the guitar where they were in their career and with contemporaries was progressive. Wanting to make different/better(?) compositions shares a similar impetus as “prog-rockers”, if not the sound.

 

[Count_Vader]

I think that's a pretty normal opinion. Are there people continually telling you otherwise?

YES.

 

[Count_Vader]

I joked about it earlier but honestly what the fuck is the big deal with Tool?

 

[Joe Mac]

I joked about it earlier but honestly what the fuck is the big deal with Tool?

Dunno never got why everyone loved them so much when I was in the metal scene back in the early 00s

 

[Joe Mac]

YES.

They’re wrong. They were a perfectly good, tight and enjoyable rnb/pop act with very humable tunes. They got better with Help! and became special with Rubber Soul.

 

[Joe Mac]

I didn’t say that they were smart. Just prog.
Edit: I am a fan of Radiohead so I say this with a sense of fun. Arguably prog is an ethos and a sound - not at all times interchangeable. The sound became bloated, unmanageable, and at times unlistenable. However, the taking of classical, jazz, etc influences and going beyond the original terms of RnR/pop as an IDEA is progressive (as a full word). So...there is progressive pop/sophisti-pop/etc that are cut from the same cloth but weave a different pattern (ie no bloated concepts or 10 min organ solos). Radiohead pushing beyond the guitar where they were in their career and with contemporaries was progressive. Wanting to make different/better(?) compositions shares a similar impetus as “prog-rockers”, if not the sound.

Yeah I suppose my negative associations with prog are organ solos, a tendency to prioritise musicianship over songs and the distinct impression the band are enjoying themselves more than I am. It’s a very 1970s middle class English public school vibe...

Plenty of other genres have bands willing to experiment and push beyond genre convention without being prog. If you called anyone in the post-punk scene, for example, prog you’d better get ready to run...

 

[Nee Lewman]

My experience is that I’ve heard more of that about Pink Floyd by a ratio of about 10:1 and that’s fine to a point, we all like to jabber on about the things we love. I just find that more than fans of any other act I’ve encountered they just can’t possibly accept that you don’t like it.

In my experience, Radiohead fans are much worse. Floyd fans are usually stoners and are more likely to try to get you into the band by getting you high.

 

[Viking Dan]

Meh! They’re poor but I don’t have to spend my life as a music fan being cornered by boring drunk people telling me how fucking important they are...

So...basically just like here & every Doves post. Ever.
Every. Single. One.

 

[Slimwhit33]

In my experience, Radiohead fans are much worse. Floyd fans are usually stoners and are more likely to try to get you into the band by getting you high.

I love Pink Floyd. In doses. I appreciate how dynamic sounding DSOTM, WYWH and The Wall are. Great music to mellow out too IMO. But I can understand people not liking them too. Whatever floats boats.

 

[Nee Lewman]

I love Pink Floyd. In doses. I appreciate how dynamic sounding DSOTM, WYWH and The Wall are. Great music to mellow out too IMO. But I can understand people not liking them too. Whatever floats boats.

I’ve just never met a Floyd fan who was like what is wrong with you if you didn’t like them. Honestly, I have a hard time thinking of anyone besides @Joe Mac who doesn’t like them. (At least given vin diagrams of his other interests). I also never really considered them Prog Rock. I mean I guess they are from More to Wish You Were Here, but eh... again more like stoner tunes than Yes, King Crimson or Moody Blues, which I guess have their fair share of stoner fans too.

 

[dhodo]

YES.

They’re wrong. They were a perfectly good, tight and enjoyable rnb/pop act with very humable tunes. They got better with Help! and became special with Rubber Soul.

The only albums I really bother with pre Rubber Soul are Hard Days Night and Help!. Otherwise singles comps are more than adequate IMHO. Even so, those two are far outshone by Rubber Soul through Abbey Road.

 

[Nee Lewman]

The only albums I really bother with pre Rubber Soul are Hard Days Night and Help!. Otherwise singles comps are more than adequate IMHO. Even so, those two are far outshone by Rubber Soul through Abbey Road.

Funny thing about that, before Hard Days Night, they really pretty much are singles comps with some filler.

 

[dhodo]

Funny thing about that, before Hard Days Night, they really pretty much are singles comps with some filler.

True, especially the way they were cranking them out.

 

[Joe Mac]

So...basically just like here & every Doves post. Ever.
Every. Single. One.

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[Joe Mac]

In my experience, Radiohead fans are much worse. Floyd fans are usually stoners and are more likely to try to get you into the band by getting you high.

Oh yeah there is definitely that Radiohead fan! I’ve just managed to either avoid them, or maybe because I like Radiohead I haven’t had to deal with the worst of them? Or maybe it’s me? I hope not!

For some reason my early days of getting into music I happened to be surrounded by people to whom Pink Floyd were some kind of insurmountable totem of everything great. They weren’t for me. That it seems wasn’t acceptable. I’ve never been good with people telling me I’m wrong about my own taste, less so when I supposedly don’t understand why...

 

[Joe Mac]

So...basically just like here & every Doves post. Ever.
Every. Single. One.

I don’t think ANY of us think that doves are the greatest band ever. I think it’s more the excitement that there are other people in existence who love this little atmospheric rock band from England who did moderately well 15-20 years ago. It’s a nice kind of internet comradery.

 

[Woob_woob]

Pink Floyd are the worst band of all time in the worst genre of all time

Pink Floyd didnt play boring early 2000s British rock tho?


Talk about a generation of boring, bland, watered down rock and roll.

"Let's all try to sound like a band that was trying to sound like a band."