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DownIsTheNewUp said:
That's not what happened.

She had momentum. Then she made it clear she would be the same as Biden on Isreal, spent zero energy chasing progressives or men in general and instead spent 2 months trotting out the Liz Cheney's of the world while trying to turn out women at a higher rate than Trump could men.
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You are blaming her for not being all things to all people. She ran a near flawless campaign.

Joe Rogan listeners claiming that Harris not going on his show cost her the election is laughable. those were never Harris voters and any claim of open mindedness is completely disingenuous someone running for president should not have debase themselves by embracing shitty bro culture in an attempted to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

The Palestine issue was a loser regardless. Any gains made by taking a hard stance would have likely cost her votes in other parts of her coalition.

With Trump as president things are sadly going to get a whole lot worse for many America and in Palestine.
 
TenderLovingKiller® said:
You are blaming her for not being all things to all people. She ran a near flawless campaign.

Joe Rogan listeners claiming that Harris not going on his show cost her the election is laughable. those were never Harris voters and any claim of open mindedness is completely disingenuous someone running for president should not have debase themselves by embracing shitty bro culture in an attempted to appeal to the lowest common denominator.

The Palestine issue was a loser regardless. Any gains made by taking a hard stance would have likely cost her votes in other parts of her coalition.

With Trump as president things are sadly going to get a whole lot worse for many America and in Palestine.
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I am blaming her for putting zero fucking effort into courting white men and progressives. While banking everything on Suburban women.
 
DownIsTheNewUp said:
I am blaming her for putting zero fucking effort into courting white men and progressives. While banking everything on Suburban women.
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I'm blaming her for not putting any effort into coalition building with progressives or men in general. While banking everything on Suburban women and some mythological, modern version of a 1990s Republican.

And on Dems for not having a primary. Whether it be after Biden stepped down or before.
 
Nee Lewman said:
Sounds an awful lot like he has Georgia. Still don’t understand why it’s not called. He has a 118k lead with 101k outstanding.
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They are snake bit after last year. This far they have only called states that haven’t shifted. They will be super certain before calling any shifting state and they are likely all waiting for someone to make the call first.
 
DownIsTheNewUp said:
I'm blaming her for not putting any effort into coalition building with progressives or men in general. While banking everything on Suburban women and some mythological, modern version of a 1990s Republican.

And on Dems for not having a primary. Whether it be after Biden stepped down or before.
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A primary after he stepped down would have been an even bigger disaster. They had just over 100 days at that point, a messy primary would have made things worse (even though worse isn’t much different than this)
 
Fleetwood-Matt said:
A primary after he stepped down would have been an even bigger disaster. They had just over 100 days at that point, a messy primary would have made things worse (even though worse isn’t much different than this)
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Building a coalition with young men was near impossible for a black woman in 2024. The Joe Rogan/Elon Musk x effect has destroyed the minds of those men. There is much deeper and harder work That needs to be done to fix that than she could realistically do
 
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