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Joe Mac said:
It’s really quite something watching you backslide whilst living in a country that’s spent the last 15-20 years emerging from an effective theocracy and seeing how much more joy there is in an open, plural society.
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No kidding. The religious right played the long game over decades packing the judiciary all the way up to the Supreme Court. It's paying off in the worst way imaginable. I fear it's going to take a generation or more to right the ship.
 
I have seen outbreaks of trench foot and cholera in homeless populations in the US and thought that this was very alarming because it signals a breakdown of basic public health; when we can no longer offer a hygienic society, we push ourselves backwards. I am very concerned by this new breakthrough. It's in the UK, but with international travel being what it is, I wonder if this isn't over here already.

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Polio Virus Found in London Sewage Puts U.K. on High Alert

The U.K. Health Security Agency raised the alarm on Wednesday after it found several closely related polioviruses in sewage samples taken from a treatment facility in east London.
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I'm originally from So Cal, moved to Montana 15 years ago, just after we had kids, due to better schools and cost of living, and I have to say it just kills me to live in a state where so many people here support the Republican agenda of more guns, taking away rights for anyone not White Christian men. Mind you, I am straight and White (still unsure about the whole Christianity thing, have been in turmoil about this for 4+ years), so I "fit in", but not ideologically. My kids have it really good here, and honestly, so do we, when you take into account why we moved here to begin with.

But I have to say I HATE living in this state. My neighbors are ALL Trumpers. Of course, there are a few of us "progressives" here, but not nearly enough, including some of my coworkers, but it is very difficult to live amongst these people. I put up with it because we do well enough, and, more importantly, my kids are doing great, but it is a constant internal battle I have.
 
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Sonicpharmacist said:
I'm originally from So Cal, moved to Montana 15 years ago, just after we had kids, due to better schools and cost of living, and I have to say it just kills me to live in a state where so many people here support the Republican agenda of more guns, taking away rights for anyone not White Christian men. Mind you, I am straight and White (still unsure about the whole Christianity thing, have been in turmoil about this for 4+ years), so I "fit in", but not ideologically. My kids have it really good here, and honestly, so do we, when you take into account why we moved here to begin with.

But I have to say I HATE living in this state. My neighbors are ALL Trumpers. Of course, there are a few of us "progressives" here, but not nearly enough, including some of my coworkers, but it is very difficult to live amongst these people. I put up with it because we do well enough, and, more importantly, my kids are doing great, but it is a constant internal battle I have.
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Being in Louisiana, it's sort of a ditto here. I like NOLA and the culture here. I have never felt at home in a city more than NOLA, but being out in the burbs sucks because of this. It's great for the kids, but it sucks,.
 
folsom_lives said:
Me three.

My two neighbors have "Let's Go Brandon" flags
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Djxfactor511 said:
There's still a "Hillary LIED" sticker on the stop sign leaving my small neighborhood.

Schools are great, the people are friendly, but the politics suck.
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A neighbor 2 doors down from me is a highway patrol officer who has a large flag with “drinking liberal tears” in his garage, amongst other GOP swag.

Another neighbor a street down is the sheriff who runs with the “Constitutional Sheriff” crowd. He just got re-elected with 70% of the vote. No Democrat ran against him, got primaried by another GOP (whom I voted for because he was significantly better).
 
Sonicpharmacist said:
I'm originally from So Cal, moved to Montana 15 years ago, just after we had kids, due to better schools and cost of living, and I have to say it just kills me to live in a state where so many people here support the Republican agenda of more guns, taking away rights for anyone not White Christian men. Mind you, I am straight and White (still unsure about the whole Christianity thing, have been in turmoil about this for 4+ years), so I "fit in", but not ideologically. My kids have it really good here, and honestly, so do we, when you take into account why we moved here to begin with.

But I have to say I HATE living in this state. My neighbors are ALL Trumpers. Of course, there are a few of us "progressives" here, but not nearly enough, including some of my coworkers, but it is very difficult to live amongst these people. I put up with it because we do well enough, and, more importantly, my kids are doing great, but it is a constant internal battle I have.
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On the border of Atlanta and Rural Georgia here. It's a wild place to be. Half the people I run into are still wearing masks and have Stacey Abrams signs and Pride flags. The other half believe wearing a mask is like unto blaspheming the name of God and have "Fuck Joe Biden" stickers on their truck and rebel flags in their yard. I drive 45 minutes out and it feels wrong. I get more and more uncomfortable the more "let's go brandon" and "Trump 20__" yard signs there are. Much like how I imagine walking into a haunted asylum would feel.
 
Max Sterling said:
On the border of Atlanta and Rural Georgia here. It's a wild place to be. Half the people I run into are still wearing masks and have Stacey Abrams signs and Pride flags. The other half believe wearing a mask is like unto blaspheming the name of God and have "Fuck Joe Biden" stickers on their truck and rebel flags in their yard. I drive 45 minutes out and it feels wrong. I get more and more uncomfortable the more "let's go brandon" and "Trump 20__" yard signs there are. Much like how I imagine walking into a haunted asylum would feel.
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I'm glad I'm not alone. There are times I want to get out, but there are more times where I know I need to stay. I'm raising my kids to be compassionate, to accept people for who they are, and if everyone like me vacated, who would be left to offset those people. It just feels at times like it's a losing battle.
 
Sonicpharmacist said:
I'm glad I'm not alone. There are times I want to get out, but there are more times where I know I need to stay. I'm raising my kids to be compassionate, to accept people for who they are, and if everyone like me vacated, who would be left to offset those people. It just feels at times like it's a losing battle.
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I was literally talking to a coworker about this very issue not but 10 minutes ago. Do you stay and fight the good fight? Or do you move to somewhere your ideals align a bit better? Obviously nowhere is perfect and most of the more progressive places (in the states at least) are prohibitively expensive. You need to have a lot of faith in your skills as a parent to mitigate and combat the damage the echo chamber your children will face every day, surrounded by kids indoctrinated by their parents. It's a lot to have to think about.

I happen to be a Canadian citizen, so I can't even vote if I wanted to. But my wife and I have been entertaining the idea of moving to Canada. It's just jobs and her immigration that hold us back.
 
Max Sterling said:
I was literally talking to a coworker about this very issue not but 10 minutes ago. Do you stay and fight the good fight? Or do you move to somewhere your ideals align a bit better? Obviously nowhere is perfect and most of the more progressive places (in the states at least) are prohibitively expensive. You need to have a lot of faith in your skills as a parent to mitigate and combat the damage the echo chamber your children will face every day, surrounded by kids indoctrinated by their parents. It's a lot to have to think about.

I happen to be a Canadian citizen, so I can't even vote if I wanted to. But my wife and I have been entertaining the idea of moving to Canada. It's just jobs and her immigration that hold us back.
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Kids are so innocent though.

My 6yo was learning about the civil rights movement during black history month and was told about segregation of blacks and whites in schools. She was retelling what she learned and was really thinking through it. She said, mom it's really said that back then I couldn't be friends with Dior (her black friend). And then her eyes lit up and she seemed excited and said, but at least I could still be friends with Aspen (her white friend)...

Her heart was there but I think she missed the point. 🤣
 
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